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Post by Philosacratic on Jun 13, 2004 19:14:20 GMT -5
I think it was the best HP film yet.  But they definitely should have showed Gryffindor winning the Quidditch Cup. And what's up with that shrunken head thing in the Knight Bus?  come on, there was a whole chapter on that **giggles at joke** |
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Post by elysium on Jun 14, 2004 16:02:35 GMT -5
*tries and fails to resist rolling her eyes*
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Post by whitmorej on Jun 15, 2004 2:40:09 GMT -5
well i was very dissappoint/angry when i saw for the first time. but i just went to see again lst night, and it was a whole lot better. personally i think so many of us so dissappoint about stuff that was missing, we didnt apprecate what was there. like i was in a rage when i first saw it but now seeing it twice, it was good. and you have to remember, its "BASED on the novel by JK" not like LOTR. but i mean i wished they had put a little more details in, but for what it was, it was great!
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Post by PetitePirate on Jun 20, 2004 10:20:03 GMT -5
do you mean to say that the LotR movies were a copy of the books? you're in for a rude awakening...
other than that, I agree.
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Post by lileales on Jun 20, 2004 10:21:04 GMT -5
I liked it...I think if I saw it again I would like it better than I did the first time 'cus I wouldn't have expected it to be perfect...here goes my complete list of "good" and "bad"
Good
- Sirius He was great. human and dog form. very good
- Giving the "the dead never truly leave us" speech to Sirius Extremly cute considering we know HE will die.
- Dumbledore Still not perfect, but better. He was more mischevious and more...well, alive. (no pun intended there)
- Showing Peter on the map I'd always considered it one of the flaws of that book that no one ever noticed before that night, I think it was a nice touch.
- The time-turner scenes Very well done, I liked the time-crossing-over things they added, even if the wolf cry Hermione did was incredibly fake sounding.
- Ron as comic reliefI must admit, I like Ron better in the movies than in the books.
- Harry's ride on Buckbeak Beautiful peice of cinema there.
- The Griffindor boys playing with the animal candies.The Griffindor boys playing with the animal candies. It was a fairly trivial scene. But it made me realized that the first two movies had little to no times when they were just...well, boys. I was glad they included this scene.
Now, for the Bad.
-The missing information from the Shrieking Shack scene. Ahem, allow me to elaborate. They didn't explain about:
The Marauders map
their nicknames
WHY they were animagi (I talked to a boy on the beach who, after the disterbing comment of "I like Harry Potter, I seen all three", told me they were just born that way)
What the significance of Harry's patronus was (there was no mention of James being an animagus)
the trick they played on Snape, or why he was the four of them's archenemy
how Sirius escaped from Azkaban
The significance of the shrieking shack/ whoping willow- the fact that Lupin transformed there...
...and most important, there was practically NO emphasis on the fact that they were four great friends who did everything together, that they were the marauders. Their strong friendship is one of my favorite parts of the books, and they basically ignored it.
If I think of anything else, I'll add it.
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Post by PetitePirate on Jun 20, 2004 10:28:32 GMT -5
^ agree. this book was supposed to be about how they were four best friends who loved eachother to pieces, but there was none of that.
and what on EARTH was with lupin's "lily was great" speech on the bridge?? WHAT THE HELL! he's not supposed to talk about lily! god, he sounded like he was in love with her...he's supposed to talk about JAMES! JAMES!
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Post by pantstheterrible on Jun 20, 2004 14:00:45 GMT -5
Calm down Pettie dear. I suppose they didn't want femenists crying out that it was all about JAMES!
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Post by lileales on Jun 20, 2004 16:09:57 GMT -5
About that whole thing, one of my first thoughts was that they'd decided to add a good but random fanfic piece into it, me and Audra (new member and best friend) coined the term "fanflic". That pretty much described some of those random bits.
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Post by lileales on Jun 20, 2004 16:22:28 GMT -5
OH! I just remembered something else... I mentioned on another one of these threads that it didn't make sense for Harry to forgive Sirius that fast. Because they didn't put in the Sirius-Harry moment that should happen in the Shrieking Shack. I know they had the thing right before he took off...but it just wasn't the same. How dare they get rid of the "Believe me, believe me Harry. I never betrayed Lily and James. I would have died before I betrayed them." THAT was the moment when Harry and Sirius bonded, and Harry really began to trust him! If they had just slowed down for ONE MINUTE during that scene, they could have kept it!!!!
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Post by PetitePirate on Jun 21, 2004 7:54:21 GMT -5
^they did have the "you should have died rather than betray your friends!" though. that part's important.
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Post by lileales on Jun 21, 2004 21:40:03 GMT -5
Yes, but was it a Harry-Sirius moment? NO!
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Post by PetitePirate on Jun 21, 2004 22:12:32 GMT -5
abby, abby abby...what about the mega harry-siri moment at the end?
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Post by *~Ginny~* on Jun 21, 2004 23:08:25 GMT -5
Now, for the Bad. -The missing information from the Shrieking Shack scene. Ahem, allow me to elaborate. They didn't explain about: The Marauders map their nicknames WHY they were animagi (I talked to a boy on the beach who, after the disterbing comment of "I like Harry Potter, I seen all three", told me they were just born that way) What the significance of Harry's patronus was (there was no mention of James being an animagus) the trick they played on Snape, or why he was the four of them's archenemy how Sirius escaped from Azkaban The significance of the shrieking shack/ whoping willow- the fact that Lupin transformed there... ...and most important, there was practically NO emphasis on the fact that they were four great friends who did everything together, that they were the marauders. Their strong friendship is one of my favorite parts of the books, and they basically ignored it. If I think of anything else, I'll add it. yup, there was a lot of missing info.....maybe some of it is in the deleted scenes or something.... |
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Post by Moony on Jun 22, 2004 0:39:55 GMT -5
I thought that they just stuck hermione into everything like it was nobody's business. emma watson was like hey, it's my job to be all over these guys so now i'm in every scene. dont get me wrong she's my secon favorite character(second to remus that is)but she didn't need to butt in all the time! They just scrambled the scenes really. made me quite sad to tell you the truth. but it was waaaaaaay better than the first two i'll give it that for certain!
edit:oohhhhhh, looking forward to deleted scenes!!!
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Post by meatnmilk on Jun 23, 2004 3:47:22 GMT -5
It was way better than the first two. My disappointments were the shortened edited Snape confronts the map scene (including the revelation re: Sirius's attempted murder of Snape, and the scene I most wanted to see, Snape goes ape to the max having discovered Sirius has escaped, that's one of my most favourite scenes in the whole series....
Still the production was excellent, the director is clearly brilliant. The mis-en-scene was top-notch, and the inter-text/media references added a highly enjoyable element, and the use of camera effects was masterful... I wonder what kind of film we might have gotten had the script writer been on par with the director, (ie complaints about rushed, missed wrongly ordered, and added scenes are probably more a result of the script than the directing).
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But they definitely should have showed Gryffindor winning the Quidditch Cup. And what's up with that shrunken head thing in the Knight Bus? 
